Why bella is a mary sue

So, all in all, Bella is a Mary Sue. I would even go as far as to say that she is the Queen of Mary Sues. Edward is the King, and there is no question there. But Bella Thank you for reading. If you managed to get all the way here, and not get bored by my rant, then I sincerely congratulate you.

Labels: bella , cullen , edward cullen , isabella , litmus test , mary sue , queen of mary sues , rant , stephanie meyer , swan , twilight. Admittedly, for a person, Edward would be the perfect guy for any girl, considering he's 'perfect'. Who wouldn't like someone perfect? But for a character, really? What kind of crappy, crap characters are they? Completely flawless, gah, I hated them.

Good job with the article! But question, do you know where it said Edward thought Bella was ugly? I only began reading Midnight Sun before I got sick and bored of it and stopped. I'd just like to know, because I'd be surprised for him to think that. After he continuously tells her how beautiful she really is, and that she just doesn't see herself clearly.

Was he just lying? XD Haha. Bella DOES have flaws. The story was good! Until she wrote about it, that is. I'll admit, when I first read the very first book I found it to be ok.

The way she tweaked the vampires was novel for me and it was nice to read a vampire book for once that wasn't totally about sex. Pity she kept writing. The more she writes about them, they worse they get with the except of Bella who cannot possibly get any worse yet somehow DOES. She's like a fanfiction writer who ruins the entire fan universe that she's inserted herself into, simply through virtue of her awful writing. That's terrifying and impressive considering it's her own Original Creations that she's maiming!

To the person who said Edward was "perfect," I can understand why girls might fantasize about a big strong man who loves and protects them. But Edward exhibits many traits of an abusive boyfriend. Not that Bella is any better they both go behind each other's backs, defy each other's wishes, upset one another, etc, all still claiming to luv each other soooo much but he's creepy and obsessive and dominating in a very unhealthy way, and she is both defiant and slavishly devoted to him.

Forgoing the fantasy, this is very twisted and unhealthy. All the characters in this story exhibit unhealthy and unreasonable behavior, except maybe Leah Clearwater, who is bashed repeatedly for not letting go of the fact that she was ditched and left broken hearted.

Particularly, she gets a lot of hypocritical flack from Jacob because of it. But yes. Bella is a textbook mary sue, and a highly insufferable one at that. She's a terrible, whiny, weak-willed person, yet Smeyer paints her as an "ideal" woman and a "martyr" in some chapters. Smeyer can bite me. In some ways yes Rhett is no Edward and had the strength to leave and stay gone.

For instance, Bella was a loner at her old school in Phoenix, yet she was immediately the hottest chick at her new school and every handsome or popular male character fell in love with her. It doesn't matter that she was a loner or that she isn't talented. Though, she is worse than just any ordinary Mary Sue because she is an obvious self-insert. Yes, I believe Bella is the definition of a Mary Sue.

Putting yourself down only to have people compliment you back up is not a de-sueifying trait. Neither is being overly clumsy when someone constantly comes to your aid, and nothing really ever affects how you look or function. You need to actually fail at something. You need to fall over and break your ankle because you're clumsy, or hit a wall and get a bruise.

Heck, get a scrape or something for goodness sake! She's only ever "clumsy" so that Edward has to rush in and save her. Sure she has bad personality traits, but no one even points them out to her. They act like it's totally OK for her to be the way she is, even when she's being an idiot. Not to mention how she just turned into this amazing vampire at the end, hunting better than everybody and having everyone go on about how gorgeous and amazing she was.

To be clear, my definition of a Mary Sue is a character that fits perfectly into the world she is placed in, usually being the center of attention no matter what is happening, having only a few minor if any flaws, and constantly outshining the other characters who should technically be as good, if not better, at whatever it is than her.

Everyone also usually loves or respects the character, despite what the character does. It's more of a fan-fiction term, because people create so-and-so to fall in love with and marry a canon character, but it can be applied to all kinds of works.

I don't think that Bella is a Mary Sue, because she has far too many flaws - being shallow, pessimistic, grudge-holding, self-absorbed, unkind, and having no backbone after Edward leaves her, she's that depressed, just to name a few. Jan 08, PM. Neither is being overly clumsy when someone const As a vampire, Bella is just too perfect She outshines everyone only because she "knew about it" beforehand.

I don't really want to criticize her too much for being too perfect as a vampire because she's a different species then? I can't relate to it because I don't know any vampires so it would be stupid of me to critique it. As a human however, she is the center of attention but I think that's more because the story is narrated in first-person, and the plot is centered around a love story between her and Edward. Meh, I'm not a big fan of first-person narrations, even in The Hunger Games which I'm currently reading.

She's done a lot of stupid shit, but I think people do criticize her more major decisions. For example, during the pregnancy, everyone was raging at her for wanting to sacrifice herself for "the fetus. Jacob also raged at Bella for both those decisions and the decision to be with Edward in the first place. Charlie raged at Bella for wanting to be with Edward, even grounding her so she could get some distance from him. Those are just some of the examples.

I don't disagree with you when you talked about her surperior-ness as a vampire but I'm not sure if Bella really is a Mary Sue as a human. Jan 10, AM. No, because her character isn't really perfect. Jan 10, PM. No, she definitely is not a Mary Sue. In no way is Bella perfect. She really doesn't have any talents, unless you count having a really nice scent.

But that comes naturally, so it doesn't really count. Plus, Bella has tons of flaws. Valerie wrote: "No, she definitely is not a Mary Sue. But that comes naturally, so it doesn't really co She's supposed to be the average teenager.. Jan 11, PM. Bella is not a Mary Sue, she has so many flaws it's anoying.

But she's not realistic either. Then, she turns to a vampire and starts being a Mary Sue, and that makes her even leas realistic. Jan 15, PM. I don't think there is really an objective criteria for Mary Sue yes, I've seen the mary sue litmus test. So many people say that girls can relate to Bella. I love the Saga, but not because of Bella. Everyone else is more interesting than her. Xdyj wrote: "I don't think there is really an objective criteria for Mary Sue yes, I've seen the mary sue litmus test.

It's just a way for people to say they hate a character while the author intended them to This is why I really like the saying "When a book is published the author is dead. Meyer just keeps giving away crap at interviews praising the hell out of Bella and sort of forces the reader to like her. I'd like to decide for myself whether or not I like a character. Feb 01, PM. Nazzy wrote: "From what I know, a Mary Sue is supposed to be someone that is either outrageously talented and flawless, or a completely unrealistic character, or both A lot of people are criticizing Bella for Neither is being overly clumsy when s Sonia wrote: "I don't think that Bella is a Mary Sue, because she has far too many flaws - being shallow, pessimistic, grudge-holding, self-absorbed, unkind, and having no backbone after Edward leaves her, she's Haley wrote: "Bella is definitely a Mary Sue.

For instance, Bella was a loner at her old school i Feb 22, PM. So true! Anti-Sue from Twilight until halfway through Breaking Dawn. Jul 12, PM. You know what would make sense? Jacob kidnaps Renesmee. His problem is now solved. But although that would make all kinds of sense, it would hurt Bella. Yeah, about that: the final nail in the coffin of Renesmee being the Primary Sue is that Bella routinely completely forgets she exists. Remember that comment I made about the hour screwing sessions?

Yeah, they do that. When they find out that the Volturi are coming, Bella and Edward spend the whole night frozen in horror, staring at the one thing each of them cannot bear to lose: the other. Not a glance for Renesmee. On what may be their last night, they sit together in the snow while Renesmee is packed off with a babysitter. Renesmee is a mechanism for making Bella special, no more. So that kind of covered the wolves, so now on to the Cullens.

Who, the moment Bella and Edward start dating, start throwing everything they have into protecting her. They then stay. Most of these people have never met Bella. I get the impression that many of them barely know Carlisle.

We also have the problem that so much stuff just happens to Bella. There are massive plot contrivances here in order to allow her to a survive and b be important, and most of the time she just sits there and other people do stuff for her or give her things.

The first example that leaped to mind for me was when she discovered she was pregnant and ever-supportive and romantic Edward decided to force her to have an abortion.

This is one of the few times that she actually did do something to get what she wanted: she waited until Edward was out of hearing and quickly phoned his sister Rosalie, who loves babies. Does the character remain in a committed relationship for the full duration of your story? A commited, albeit abusive one, yes. Does the character have a child or children for the greater part of your story?

Little miss demon spawn in book 4. Does the character manage to avoid learning from major mistakes? Do you even have to ask? Does the character have very little or no empathy for other people? Part 4: Work and Play I checked yes for: 1. Aforementioned super sparkle power, yes. Does the character hold your job? I can consider housewife a job, right?

Does the character hold your dream job? Invulnerability When she becomes a Sparklepire, yes. The ability to shrug off minor wounds Part of the super sparkle power package. Super strength or speed Ditto.

Does the character share more than one of your hobbies or interests? Does the character have the same taste in music as you have? Debussy, anyone? Does the character have the same religious or spiritual beliefs as you? Part 5: Immortals I checked yes for: 1. Is the character a vampire?

At the end, yes. Part 6: High School I checked yes for: 1. Is it because the bullies are jealous? Pretty much. Part 7: The Plot I checked yes for: 1. Has everyone significant heard of the character? Except for Lauren, and we all know what happened to her. Front page news, people. Part 8: Your Character and You. I checked yes for: 1. Did you base the character on your favorite previously existing character or person? Would you be very surprised if someone did not like the character?

Do you take any negative feedback about the character as a personal affront? Meyer is incredibly notorious for throwing hissy fits when people criticize her characters. Is the character a mouthpiece for your own beliefs or views?

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